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T O P I C R E V I E WKerosene My friend showed me this site, and I was so amazed. Its basically a voyeurists dream. They're webcams all over these peoples apartments 24/7Besides the money this is like too much for me, i'm the complete opposite, I like need my privacy to survive.I would much rather do porn than this hahahahaWould this have to with the 12 house or 8th house?CeridwenPersonal planets, especially Sun or Moon or chartruler, in the upper half of the chart, especially in 10th or - this seems more likely here- 11th house.11th house people share a lot of themselves with the world, usually hoping they will receive appreciation and even love for this.EDIT:Jeez, that would be such a HORROR to me (all my personal planets except for Mars, are in the lower half of the chart, tucked away in my privacy; and Mars is in 12th house).libraschoice77Reminds me of the movie Truth Or Dare with Madonna where they followed her around behind the scenes of her shows and in personal moments. Might want to look at her chart, shes a Leo Sun with a Virgo Moon I think.Kerosene^ wow yes, also maybe 10 house placements. This is sort of like a REAL reality show. Plus these people sort of have a following on the internet, so even notoriety and fame can be involved. Kerosene quote:Originally posted by libraschoice77:Reminds me of the movie Truth Or Dare with Madonna where they followed her around behind the scenes of her shows and in personal moments. Might want to look at her chart, shes a Leo Sun with a Virgo Moon I think.except you can watch them do anything, I mean anything. Like shower,sex, and even pick their nose. Madonna's movie was still very glamorous and soooo EDITED to make her look like a good person. hahaha, but I get your pointStacyLewisThere's no way it's eighth house based. The eighth house is associated with Scorpio and Pluto and linked to secrecy and a need for privacy. There's no way an eighth house person is going to voluntarily go for something like that. Neither is a 12th house person - theoretically they'd be almost as skittish about that sort of thing as an eighth houser, unless they had chart factors mitigating it.I have a stellium in the eighth house and issues with unwanted voyeurism is familiar territory for me. I actually read a couple interpretations somewhere that specifically mentioned issues with privacy being invaded. Thing is, it's been so long I can't even remember exactly what placement or aspect it was, I just remember the mention of loss of privacy. It was a natal aspect that I actually *do* have, too.And no, Madonna's "Truth or Dare" vid isn't the same thing at all, because they didn't roll camera at all times, while she was in the bathroom, etc. That was just a documentary, really.anonymidarknessPlacements of Kim Kardashians,well lets say placements of The Kardashians.Moon conjunct MC may be another one.sand quote:Originally posted by Kerosene: except you can watch them do anything, I mean anything. Like shower,sex, and even pick their nose. I don't think I would be fine with this. I need good lighting and hair and makeup. Kerosene quote:Originally posted by anonymidarkness:Placements of Kim Kardashians,well lets say placements of The Kardashians.Moon conjunct MC may be another one.Yes and no, its all fake and over dramatized. Like I never understood the problem with scott, He likes to party and is not responsible etc. NONE OF THEM ARE EITHER, he was just used as an antagonist. I consider the kardashians as actors playing themselves. I do agree with moon and midheaven thou.Kerosene quote:Originally posted by StacyLewis:There's no way it's eighth house based. The eighth house is associated with Scorpio and Pluto and linked to secrecy and a need for privacy. There's no way an eighth house person is going to voluntarily go for something like that. Neither is a 12th house person - theoretically they'd be almost as skittish about that sort of thing as an eighth houser, unless they had chart factors mitigating it.I have a stellium in the eighth house and issues with unwanted voyeurism is familiar territory for me. I actually read a couple interpretations somewhere that specifically mentioned issues with privacy being invaded. Thing is, it's been so long I can't even remember exactly what placement or aspect it was, I just remember the mention of loss of privacy. It was a natal aspect that I actually *do* have, too.And no, Madonna's "Truth or Dare" vid isn't the same thing at all, because they didn't roll camera at all times, while she was in the bathroom, etc. That was just a documentary, really.If someone has an afflicted eight house all their secrets will be put out there. Eight house is the only house that deals with this truly. Maybe the ruler of the eight is situated in the first or 11th.Even then, I've observed these people, they're actually still quite private. They never do anything interesting. A lot of them are never home. They honestly look like their suffering and often couples even leave (I assume when they collected enough money) The couples never interact either that much, I guess maybe to still keep what little privacy they have leftSorchaHouse-wise, I would think maybe 1,5 and 11 might be involved, possibly H6 since that rules day-to-day. Definitely not H8 or H12! My 12th house Moon/Jupiter shudders at the thought of webcams all over my place. In fact, I keep my computer's webcam covered even when it's not on because I'm kind of paranoid! LOLETA: It's possible that perhaps the *ruler* of the 8th might be involved, but I really cannot imagine the 12th being a part of it.charlieI have Moon and Vertex in 5H; Sun, Saturn, Ceres, Venus, Mercury in 11H.I go through periods of fantasizing that there are camera's at work or at home and that someone is watching me...turns me on!Ruler of my 8th (Mars) is in my 1st conj Asc-trine 5H and sextile 11H.KeroseneVery interesting charlie^Lmao to 8th housers and 12 housers, No it would be out of your character. But other people who are well.. into this have connections with first/eleventh house and 8th house. maybe aspects or rulers. So in away these houses would be connected to this lifestyle, no? I have strong first house and I do like the attention but I need to appear perfect infront of others with all my dirty secrets tucked away in the 8th house lolhannaramaa quote:Originally posted by charlie:I have Moon and Vertex in 5H; Sun, Saturn, Ceres, Venus, Mercury in 11H.I go through periods of fantasizing that there are camera's at work or at home and that someone is watching me...turns me on!Ruler of my 8th (Mars) is in my 1st conj Asc-trine 5H and sextile 11H.I have Vertex in the 5H with Sun, Mercury, Moon and Venus in the 11H too! I'm always in my room fantasizing there's a huge crowd (granted I'm mainly hula hooping and singing.) but yeah, cameras all over wouldn't bother me.depthI too go through periods of fantasizing that there are cameras all around me, watching my every move. And it's quite exciting. But cameras in reality, umm....not really. it could get a bit restrictive, make me very self-conscious and I would be faking all the time. Pluto, mercury(8H ruler), venus in 10th.Sun, mars in 11th.7thGuardian quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Personal planets, especially Sun or Moon or chartruler, in the upper half of the chart, especially in 10th or - this seems more likely here- 11th house.11th house people share a lot of themselves with the world, usually hoping they will receive appreciation and even love for this.EDIT:Jeez, that would be such a HORROR to me (all my personal planets except for Mars, are in the lower half of the chart, tucked away in my privacy; and Mars is in 12th house).As one with 11'th House Sun and Mars - i wouldn't say that...at least - "not generally speaking (something that applies to 11'th house Sun's)" tho, it might work with some specific combinations: - a Sagittarius Sun in House 11(a distant hearth and a wild'like personality), a Aquarius ASC (a rebel, people person) and maybe House 10 in Scorpio (one who makes a career in a domain that's related to intimacy).Here's a list of 11'th house Celebrities: http://www.astrotheme.com/celebrities/sun/m11/1.htm - all of them like attention, but not when it comes to their private life...------------------ [☼ ► ♊ ... ☾ ► ♈ ... 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My friend showed me this site, and I was so amazed. Its basically a voyeurists dream. They're webcams all over these peoples apartments 24/7Besides the money this is like too much for me, i'm the complete opposite, I like need my privacy to survive.
I would much rather do porn than this hahahaha
Would this have to with the 12 house or 8th house?
11th house people share a lot of themselves with the world, usually hoping they will receive appreciation and even love for this.
EDIT:Jeez, that would be such a HORROR to me (all my personal planets except for Mars, are in the lower half of the chart, tucked away in my privacy; and Mars is in 12th house).
quote:Originally posted by libraschoice77:Reminds me of the movie Truth Or Dare with Madonna where they followed her around behind the scenes of her shows and in personal moments. Might want to look at her chart, shes a Leo Sun with a Virgo Moon I think.
except you can watch them do anything, I mean anything. Like shower,sex, and even pick their nose. Madonna's movie was still very glamorous and soooo EDITED to make her look like a good person. hahaha, but I get your point
There's no way an eighth house person is going to voluntarily go for something like that. Neither is a 12th house person - theoretically they'd be almost as skittish about that sort of thing as an eighth houser, unless they had chart factors mitigating it.
I have a stellium in the eighth house and issues with unwanted voyeurism is familiar territory for me. I actually read a couple interpretations somewhere that specifically mentioned issues with privacy being invaded. Thing is, it's been so long I can't even remember exactly what placement or aspect it was, I just remember the mention of loss of privacy. It was a natal aspect that I actually *do* have, too.
And no, Madonna's "Truth or Dare" vid isn't the same thing at all, because they didn't roll camera at all times, while she was in the bathroom, etc. That was just a documentary, really.
quote:Originally posted by Kerosene: except you can watch them do anything, I mean anything. Like shower,sex, and even pick their nose.
I don't think I would be fine with this. I need good lighting and hair and makeup.
quote:Originally posted by anonymidarkness:Placements of Kim Kardashians,well lets say placements of The Kardashians.Moon conjunct MC may be another one.
Yes and no, its all fake and over dramatized. Like I never understood the problem with scott, He likes to party and is not responsible etc. NONE OF THEM ARE EITHER, he was just used as an antagonist. I consider the kardashians as actors playing themselves. I do agree with moon and midheaven thou.
quote:Originally posted by StacyLewis:There's no way it's eighth house based. The eighth house is associated with Scorpio and Pluto and linked to secrecy and a need for privacy. There's no way an eighth house person is going to voluntarily go for something like that. Neither is a 12th house person - theoretically they'd be almost as skittish about that sort of thing as an eighth houser, unless they had chart factors mitigating it.I have a stellium in the eighth house and issues with unwanted voyeurism is familiar territory for me. I actually read a couple interpretations somewhere that specifically mentioned issues with privacy being invaded. Thing is, it's been so long I can't even remember exactly what placement or aspect it was, I just remember the mention of loss of privacy. It was a natal aspect that I actually *do* have, too.And no, Madonna's "Truth or Dare" vid isn't the same thing at all, because they didn't roll camera at all times, while she was in the bathroom, etc. That was just a documentary, really.
If someone has an afflicted eight house all their secrets will be put out there. Eight house is the only house that deals with this truly. Maybe the ruler of the eight is situated in the first or 11th.Even then, I've observed these people, they're actually still quite private. They never do anything interesting. A lot of them are never home. They honestly look like their suffering and often couples even leave (I assume when they collected enough money) The couples never interact either that much, I guess maybe to still keep what little privacy they have left
Definitely not H8 or H12! My 12th house Moon/Jupiter shudders at the thought of webcams all over my place. In fact, I keep my computer's webcam covered even when it's not on because I'm kind of paranoid! LOL
ETA: It's possible that perhaps the *ruler* of the 8th might be involved, but I really cannot imagine the 12th being a part of it.
I go through periods of fantasizing that there are camera's at work or at home and that someone is watching me...turns me on!
Ruler of my 8th (Mars) is in my 1st conj Asc-trine 5H and sextile 11H.
quote:Originally posted by charlie:I have Moon and Vertex in 5H; Sun, Saturn, Ceres, Venus, Mercury in 11H.I go through periods of fantasizing that there are camera's at work or at home and that someone is watching me...turns me on!Ruler of my 8th (Mars) is in my 1st conj Asc-trine 5H and sextile 11H.
I have Vertex in the 5H with Sun, Mercury, Moon and Venus in the 11H too! I'm always in my room fantasizing there's a huge crowd (granted I'm mainly hula hooping and singing.) but yeah, cameras all over wouldn't bother me.
Pluto, mercury(8H ruler), venus in 10th.Sun, mars in 11th.
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Personal planets, especially Sun or Moon or chartruler, in the upper half of the chart, especially in 10th or - this seems more likely here- 11th house.11th house people share a lot of themselves with the world, usually hoping they will receive appreciation and even love for this.EDIT:Jeez, that would be such a HORROR to me (all my personal planets except for Mars, are in the lower half of the chart, tucked away in my privacy; and Mars is in 12th house).
As one with 11'th House Sun and Mars - i wouldn't say that...at least - "not generally speaking (something that applies to 11'th house Sun's)" tho, it might work with some specific combinations: - a Sagittarius Sun in House 11(a distant hearth and a wild'like personality), a Aquarius ASC (a rebel, people person) and maybe House 10 in Scorpio (one who makes a career in a domain that's related to intimacy).
Here's a list of 11'th house Celebrities: http://www.astrotheme.com/celebrities/sun/m11/1.htm - all of them like attention, but not when it comes to their private life...
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